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| I like that line up. I think we need to teach players and teams to attack not defend all the time. I also like 1-3-2 and even 1-2-3. I think if you have a midfielder that is so good that you can play him there by himself then why not a defender the same way. Still waiting to hear why Bobby disagrees???? Stop the defensive play please coaches!
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well I'm a player/coach for my team Nice Vibes and Blue Lions. Nice Vibes is 24 man Squad and Blue lions are a 10 man squad, for the blue lions we're using a 2-1-3 formation where u have a central defenders a play making midfielder a central striker and to wingers this has been our formation for at least 3yrs now. At first trying to adjust to new was hard, lost our first 10 games but we got some positives from those games......we saw our problems and corrected them. We used more off a 2-3-1 formation having an extra midfielder playing as a supporting striker wasn't ideal for us so switched to the formation mentioned earlier....and since that change we have a record of 87 games unbeaten since the Christmas of 06 and we are looking to carry over our record into the new yr
To attain my objective I am ready to die.........and although it arrives today I am ready to live it!!
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| Hi Gav, Sometimes I despair when I hear of tactical formations for 8 yr-olds! Will we ever learn in this country?????? Kids of tender years should experience playing in ALL areas of the field (including GK) and NOT specific positions. How can we develop personal ability on the ball unless we aim to ensure our young charges are comfortable everywhere on the park? 7-a-side football should equate to the Street Soccer of years ago - EVERYONE gets a chance to shoot, tackle, dribble, pass and head the ball. By allowing your young charges to operate in different areas of the pitch you may uncover the next Ronaldo, Terry, Gerrard or, dare I say it, Torres, Iniesta, Raul etc, etc, Come on guys - give the kids a chance! GTQ
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Formations are important yes I agree rotate the players round the positions but you still have to have formations, I think you are missing the point. a basic formation is imperitive so you can teach the players how differant positions operate. in my training games i play attackers as defenders and rotate the keepers all the time as well.BY playing an attacker as a defender, they can learn new ways of beating the defender by playing as one. but unless you have a formation for the kids to learn the basics, then they are always just going to chase the ball and not improve on their team skills. I am currently teaching passing in a match, so they can pass the ball away from the oposition to free players, making their awareness skills of space and other players greater. but without those positions you cant teach space awareness.
I have found that 2.3.1 is a great formation as it allows you to keep supply to the forwards and encourages less ball hogging and gives you the all important space to pass.
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| I totally agree. Formations provide organisation and understanding of their roles on the pitch, within in a match and playing as part of a team. If in training you play "practice matches" where players are free to roam etc then fine but within a structered match at any age group then the players need to get organisation into their football as early as possible so that it teaches good habits from the start. Street football is all well and good and has played a huge part in the heritage of our game and i agree not enough kids do this anymore but in any country of the word at any point in the games history then once you join a club then the unorganised football you play at home with your mates rightly goes out of the window and your taught a more organised and disciplined version, street football is for your own time but if coaches emphasise too much on that "carefree" style for too long the development of players going into higher age groups and standards will not have the tactical and organisation skills needed. All i can go back too with everyones attitude that our game is well behind europe and the world in how we coach as we do not emphasise enough with the ball and skills is in Ian Rushs book he clearly states that even in the early 80's they worked on more small sided and skill based drills at Liverpool than they ever did at juventus when he was there as tehy were much less with the ball and more tactical. The secret is getting the balance and as a nation we dont do it any worse or develop and less youngsters than anyone else its just the grass always looks greener!
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| I've tried a variety of formations over the past few years and while clearly you need to adapt to the skills of the kids on the team, I've found a 2-3-1 is most flexible and adaptable no matter how a game is going. The nice thing is you have the central midfielder that is instantly a centre-half or another forward as the game changes, so as long as you can put a smart enough and good enough kid in that spot, you have cover at the back, help moving the ball up-field, and a partner for the forward. Depending on how the game is going, I also have the central midfielder generally play more defensively, inline, or attacking behind or in front of the other 2 midfielders. The other consideration - to do this you need 3 energetic midfielders that can do the running needed.
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U8
1 - 1 - 3 - 1
1 sweeper - insurance - covers holding midfield side to side
1 holding midfield - play maker - becomes midfield for corners, and should/mark last man when defending, covers sweeper
1 midfield attacker - play maker , tackler
2 wingers - supporting both attack , and midfield distribution, and defense
1 forward - holding up and poaching, outlet for midfield / wings
My kids team have played this formation and same positions for 2 years. Let in only 4 goals all season. All are fast, and have good success playing U9 through to Group stages.
What do you think chaps, interesting discussion so far - kids development vs winning and team readiness for U11
Cheers,
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| I think the formation really depends on your team and how you coach. I coached a U10 AYSO team this year and used a 2 - 1 -2- 1 formation. The 2 CB's are supported by a stopper. the stopper is in a central position on the field and moves up and down the field but always trying to be behind the beehive that still exists at this level. This is generally your best all around player. The 2 midfielders need to be able to cover both ends of the field on their side and the striker stays always up top. It allows for some nice diagonal passes when it works and we certainly scored many goals this season.
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Hey, I am not a coach but I stumbled upon this topic while reading some stuff.
The team I played tried different formations every game. However, we stuck to 1-2-2-1 a lot of times. I know it gets really crowded considering the size of the field and everything. But, since these were basically practice games, we were trying to improve short passes and quick thinking amongst the players.
The first half of the 1-2 in 1-2-2-1 plays defense thereby giving the fullback/last man more responsibility. This was usually me and it helped me a lot in the full 11 a side games because I didn't panic as much, if a player from the opposite side ran past everyone and I was in a one-on-one situation. It trained me not only to stay calm, but also predict player/ball/game movement in the future. The two players in front of me played on my calls so they could run up to support the midfielders or run back.
This formation was specifically to work on strengthening the defense and improve passing/movement.
Hope this helps.
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| hi guys just to say this year will be my first year coaching/managing a kids football team, all the kids at the moment are year one in school so cant start playing properly until sept and really can wait, im so excited by it obviously my son is involved in this and thats the main reason i agreed to take this on, a friend of mine is also going to give me hand doing it as his son is also in the same age group we really do have some tremendous players for their age and three of the team are currently in a premier league academy so as you can imagine both myself and the club are very excited about the prospects of watching these lads develop over the years but that wont take it away from the fact that i want it to be fun for the lads wether we win lose or draw the results for me at this age are not important i found this site looking for what formations to play as i had come up with 2-3-1 myself and thats seems to fit in well with the players we have and their different abilitys, but we will try all the lads in different positions throughout the season as a lad we think could be a good defender could also become a good striker given the chance to play there i look at the 2-3-1 formation more of a 1-3-2 when we are attacking with one of the defenders pushing forward when we have the ball and the centre midfield pushing right up the park and then obviously falling back to the 2-3-1 when we lose the ball like i say its all new to me as i have never known 7 aside before just 11 a side when i was younger so any advice from you guys would be fantastic at the end of the day i want the kids to enjoy it and come of that pitch with big smiles on their faces
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