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Hi I would like to know what people think of players, clubs and refs cheating at soccer I personally think they should be lined up against a wall and someone should bring 2 bullets ( incase the cheater survives the first, survivers will be shot again  and shoot them, I'm also for video ref.
wishing you well luke.
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| Luke, I have to agree fully on this. I entered the forum to gbive my opinion on giving the players a break during the summer and noticed your post. Just had to have my say.This is my first (recent) season as a manager. I did manage a side from u 10 to u15 back in the days of 11 a side on full sived pitches for all age groups. Yeah, it sounds unbelievable now. That stint ended 14 years ago. So now I have become involved again. Any way I inherited a side going nowhere with parents threatening to leave if nothing changed. I offered my help to coach the boys and every one took a backward step and here I am. Any way, we have had a great season, the lads have worked tremendously hard. We have upped the discpline. Just stopped the messing around and started to take the game seriously. We were defeated only once the whole season and made runners up in the league, missing top spot only by goal difference. We made the cup final and this is what hurt. 1 - 0 up and nearing the end of the game. An oposition player asks the ref how long to go. He says time up, one minute injury time. Over 7 mins later the opposition score to take the game into extra time. Yes, youv'e guessed it, my players totally deflated, lost 3 - 2 after extra time. During the second half of extra time one of my players took a shot and pole axed thier keeper with the power of the shot. Very brave keeper. He was given treatment, and rightly so, until he recovered. Almost three minutes. At this time the opposition were ahead and the ref blows for full time with no allowance for the keepers treatment. Although behind, at this stage we are the team doing all the attacking. The venue, the opposition home town pitch. The ref, young lad opposition home town, younger brother plays for opposition u 9s. The ref was just continuing the game until they scored and once they were ahead, ended the game asap. All who witnesed it, including the opposition staff were in total disbelief. How can we stop this when the referees governers just say its up to the referees discretion. And what value is the victory to the players who 's on behalf the ref cheated. The players can't be to blame but they are not stupid and they realise what was going on as well as my players. The ref even ran off the pitch at times to retrieve the ball for his home side. What a disgrace, where will it end. If cheating is the way forward, collectivly as a club, we can do without the trophies, we are just happy to play the game for fun.
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having been on a f.a coaching course recently ,the coach who was taking the course actively encouraged diving and gamesmanship
at a higher leval i.e the premiership etc.etc
but at grass roots leval it has no place, what message is that sending out?
whu
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| yes i totally agree with all said my boyhood game was rugby and only got involved with football when my son choose the round over the oval.Now i never played the game but watched it. i have had to learn quick as the last manager left over abuse from opposition managers and parents. i got the poisoned chalice and now run the team. back to the story the abuse and the cheats can be ignored by the better team. my reasoning is that most of my players will never play at the top level (with me as the coach anyway) but what they will get from their time with and from me is pride in themselves, enjoyment in a sport they love, friends for life, respect for themselves, their family, their club, their commuinity and the ref and opposition. last season my striker was hussled of the ball and fell over, the ref gave a penalty, the defender was crying his head off, the opposition went mad and my striker told the ref it was a fair tackle (he was 8) the ref told him to shut his mouth and take his penalty. he put the ball on the spot and looked at me I shouted over to him to do the right thing, he turned around and kicked the ball over to the corner flag. we drew that game 1-1, but our last game of the season was against this same team they were mid table and a draw would get us promotion we were 1 up with 2 mins to go and they got a penalty a very bad tackle which i took the defender off for the rest of the game, then it happened their manager told the defender of the last game to take the peno and shouted at him remember last time, the kid looked at him looked at me and then stook it in the back of the net, we try, we got our draw and all was well. now saying all that what i suggest that is done at the highest level is this. In rugby a club that feels agrieved can call for video of an incident to be viewed by a citing body this can be for foul play etc. why not therefore can players in the prem. be cited for diving, pretending, calling for corners throw-ins etc when they know its not their ball. a match ban or more would soon stop this carry-on and stop our kids trying to do as their hero's.
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